well, we had a race AC-Cupper against 18foot Skiffs and F18 three years ago in kiel in middle winds. I'ld say. the F18 and the 18Skiff had a tie, one has been faster, we were slower due to the performance. I think the Tornados should be faster in light to middle winds, and very very light winds. I don't know about flat water and strong winds with an experienced team on the 18f Skiff, they could do an amazing performance with small rigg, that even puts out Tornados. Better ask the Australian guys. greetings Norbert |